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If you give a frank answer to rabid NCRS members, they are offended. They are particularly upset when you frankly tell them instead to shop instead for an original part. That's when they run to the NCRS chat room and bash you as being rude. | |||||
But Timothy Bourke CFO The Robert Weiler Company 41 S. High St., Ste. 1010 Columbus, OH 43215 also has misquoted me and done so out of context on the NCRS chat room. NCRS Dirtbag. | |||||
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| Whenever I hear of a part that has the letter P stamped into it, my immediate thought is of Paragon as they ID many of their parts as such with a P. I know of many different Paragon parts that are acceped at these judging events with a P on them. Were they originally with a P or is the stamped P for Paragon? Who knows? What is the current NCRS book describing? I don't know, because I have never, as in never bought one of the NCRS manuals. I have had many remarkable photcopies of section snail mailed by my NCRS members for years. I've read enough of the discrepancies on their tech chat room as well. In my view they often fudge the information from the AIM, until someone points out it isn't true. I had a customer Tom Botelle Waterbury, CT who bought his car new & repeatedly changed minor parts and finishes to match what the current judge was seeking. | |||||
| These NCRS manuals have many inaccurate, false descriptions & information; so much so that there is a private web site (Vetteheads) that has one forum of over 100 pages, dedicated to corrections NOT found in the 1963-1964 manuels. The NCRS members call their manuals living documents, because the information is not always authentic - or as they like to say Correct. Whenever that buzzwork is used, that is another key clue to a sale, followed by the return, or better yet, a no sale, and thus no return. It's much cheaper when the static lookers are weeded from the actual buyers. | |||||
| These NCRS books inaccurately describe many differences by parroting the AIM, which also happens to be inaccurate, but they copied it, nobody looked at the real article. Nobody checked. They describe obvious Aluminum parts as stainless. I'll say it again: well intentioned, volunteer, free, part time authors. You get what you pay for. It appears few are proofread, and if so, by some that don't know one metal from another, or one type of plating from another. | |||||
| Whenever I hear of a part that has the letter P stamped into it, my immediate thought is of Paragon as they ID many of their parts as such with a P. I know of many different Paragon parts that are acceped at these judging events with a P on them. Were they originally with a P or is the stamped P for Paragon? Who knows? What is the current NCRS book describing? I don't know, because I have never, as in never bought one of the NCRS manuals. I have had many remarkable photcopies of section snail mailed by my NCRS members for years. I've read enough of the discrepancies on their tech chat room as well. In my view they often fudge the information from the AIM, until someone points out it isn't true. I had a customer Tom Botelle Waterbury, CT who bought his car new & repeatedly changed minor parts and finishes to match what the current judge was seeking. | |||||
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| Above: Wrico Stamping of New York made the fuel filter bracket I have supplied for over a decade. Thus I have never held one of Paragons, so I really don't know if theirs has a P or not, and frankly I don't give a hoot either way. It's 10 bux & in NY city cigarettes even cost more. Maybe someone will make a 9 dollar part in Taiwan with P on it. | |||||
The NCRS obcession with nuance, fonts and numbers and letters and stampings, and VINS and trim tags and their evaluating, qualifying and disqualifying is becoming quite a quagmire. Read their sticky message on their site about judging. I heard they even instituted a bylaw, that if the club was sued by a member, that member was banned. (PS I never sued anyone but ZIP, period and I've never been a defendant.) Read up on your (501)c non profit's - your tax dollars are supporting them, as well as your other dues & contributions if you favor a club membership. They have some great deals going: $300 to see if your Corvette is in their judging database, and some new monetary deal that will somehow try to validate that your Corvette is what it is. In other words: there seem to be allot more of the repro Corvette's than the real Corvettes in the house. And one can only hope there is a inverted P somewheres. |
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| This afternoon, I found this drone buzzing about an inverted P | |||||